Monday, August 9, 2010

Christians, Muslims, And Mosques

Lately there have been a lot of headlines about Christians having a tizzy over the proposed “Mosque being built on ground zero” in New York. (Actually, it’s not a Mosque, and it’s not on ground zero, but that’s beside the point). It’s a Muslim Community Center and it’s about 3 blocks away on property that was owned before 9/11. And New York is not the only place this is happening. The “New York Times”  did a story about this battle over Mosques being built across this country and the problems its caused in Tennessee, Wisconsin, and California.

The likelihood that more of these battles will take place is high as Muslim populations increase, and Christian paranoia escalates. It’s not however, all Christians that are doing the objecting. Many religious groups have spoken out in support of Muslims having every right to their own places of worship. So what is prompting all this agitation from the objectors?

The complaint is that Muslims are attempting to take over this country and intend to find a way to impose Islamic Shariah Law on our government, our laws and our way of life. Many of these more verbal anti-Islamic Christians are part of or associated with Tea Party or other Patriot groups and they are dead set against more and more Mosques being built here. They do not trust Muslims in any way shape or form and believe that all Muslims are terrorists and in one way or another are all plotting against us.

They also believe that to achieve this “take over”, Muslims intend to become politically active, to run for offices, and worm their way into the government as a means to force their Shariah laws onto all of our lives, and they are hell bent to put a stop to that. They have no intention of allowing Muslims to infiltrate our government and impose Islamic laws on our way of life.

The ironic thing about all of this is that, what these Christians are accusing the Muslims of doing, or of attempting to do is exactly what the Christians have “actually” been doing all along. How many Christian voters scrutinize the religious views of all candidates running for office and will only vote for those they consider to have “good Christian values”.

Many Christians believe Obama is a Muslim and have carried signs at Tea Parties saying “We Need A Christian President”. They have even gone so far as to claim that this Country is a “Christian Nation” and they nearly shit themselves when Obama declared in a speech “while we have a large population of Christians, we do not consider ourselves a Christian Nation”.

They oppose any law that does not agree with their religious beliefs. Abortion should be illegal because it’s murder and a sin against God; homosexuality and gay marriage is a sin against God and that should be illegal too. They do their damnedest to change or impose upon the laws of this land, and upon the lives of others what “their” Christian ideology teaches, and to hell with what anyone else thinks or believes.

Now how is this right? How can Christians be justified in saying its okay for them to do this, but not Muslims? This is exactly why NO religious ideology should have any influence over any of our laws, not even Christian ideology, because once you open that door to one, you are legally bound to open it equally to all. Just imagine the fluster cluck that would cause!

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Nor can the government legally favor any one religion, or religious opinion over any other. It would be nice if these extremist Christians could take an objective look at this from outside that religious box they live in. Maybe then they would understand that this is exactly why non-subcribers are so hell bent to keep “all religious opinions” out of government all together.

The fact is that Christians have no more right to impose their religious beliefs or opinions on our laws than Muslims or any other religions do. But THEY think they do have that right. And their agitation is apparently over their fear that Muslims just might have the balls to “think” the same thing. (Ooooo, can’t have that kind of competition!)

It’s possible that some legal headway may have been made on the issue of religious opinion and the law with California Judge Vaughn Walker’s recent ruling agianst Proposition 8. He stated:


“Moral disapproval alone is an improper basis on which to deny rights to gay men and lesbians. The evidence shows conclusively that Proposition 8 enacts, without reason, a private moral view that same-sex couples are inferior to opposite-sex couples. FF 76, 79-80; Romer, 517 US at 634 “Laws of the kind now before us raise the inevitable inference that the disadvantage imposed is born of animosity toward the class of persons affected.”). Because Proposition 8 disadvantages gays and lesbians without any rational justification, Proposition 8 violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.”

You would think that these extremist Christians might start to make the connection that what they are doing in instances like this, is exactly what THEY are afraid the Muslims will attempt to do. But instead of catching on, they turned around and said the Judge had no right to rule on that case because he’s gay.

Give me a friggin break! I suppose they would rather have had that call made by a Judge with a “good Christian” opinion of what is right or wrong.

Now I believe whole-heartedly that everyone has the right to live “their own” lives by whatever religious ideology they want. But no one, not even Christians have a right to try and force anyone else to live by “Their Private Moral Views”, OR by “their” religious opinions!

If Christians can build Churches, Muslims are equally entitled to build Mosques, but all religions need to stay the hell out of other people’s business and stop trying to rule over other people’s lives.


  1. Standing ovation of agreement.

  2. What ever happened to the days of feeding Christians to lions? Can we bring that back? Not for all Christians. Just the right wing nutter Christians...

  3. Hooray!

    I wonder what these Christo-Facists would have to say about "The Virgin Maary Mosque" which is located in Australia or the imam of this mosque whose first two names are Musa Isa (Moses Jesus). The Virgin Maryh is mentioned more often in the Koran than in the Bible.

    AN interesting quote from an document approved by the Senate and Signed by President Adams in 1797: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

  4. Man, great article. I had to post. When will all people learn that morals come from man, experience, and reason. No book, without the guidance of man, written by man, can outline morals. Every book ever written about morals, was written by man. Morals would not exist, if man did not give them a name and a meaning. Morals come from our conscience, not from a voice in the sky.